The forecast on Friday was pretty miserable. Seemed like a nice day to take a long walk in the woods. Oh how wrong that was! It was actually a fantastic day for a long walk in the woods!
We headed towards "the other" Eagle Creek, down in Clackamas County sort of near Estacada, on the vaguest of directions. Basically, we followed the path more traveled after turning off the main road (OR-224). I'll try to offer some more details down below.
This trail winds through an ancient, moss-draped, old-growth wonder of a forest. We felt rain on us at the trailhead, and again hours later when we returned to the trailhead. But the rest of the day, not really at all. The forest just seemed to absorb the rain before it ever found us!
The day was dark, though, so photos were few. And those that turned out, even fewer. I'll try to offer a sense of what's there, but really there's no way to fully convey a rainforest in photos. It's just something you need to experience first hand.
An absolutely exquisite forest. No words are adequate.
The trees just call to you. We wondered... 800 years old? 900?
Whole lot of this going around these days, it seems!
We crossed dozens of little tributaries to Eagle Creek. Some of them small.
Some requiring a bit of thoughtful rock-hopping.
And a few where the poles and a good sense of balance helped.
We made occasional forays down to the creek, whenever we saw something cool like this gigantic boulder.
Oscar was all over that!
The view overlooking Eagle Creek was spell-binding.
Turned out to be the perfect location for the TFF buddy shot, too!
Evidence of woodpeckers existed, but we never saw any.
The trail was very soft on the feet. Boots only useful if they happen to be waterproof, I suppose.
Perpetual whitenoise from one stream or another, completely masked my tinnitus. Lovin' that!
This end of that log was easily a couple feet taller than me!
Really bizarre forest floor fungus thing.
While most 'shrooms were pretty spent, there were still lots of these guys popping up from almost anything dead.
We ended up hiking about 13 miles, while almost imperceptibly climbing nearly 1500'. Our turn around point was at a crossing of Eagle Creek nearly 7 miles in, which we had a couple of options to get over, but it felt like pushing past there would've meant a TH return well after sunset. So, we had a little lunch, and retraced our steps. Never a boring moment, despite the in/out nature of it.
http://gpsfly.org/gps_map.php?gps_id=2972&w=645&h=440
Getting There
Finding the trailhead was a bit of an adventure. We sort of followed the directions offered by the Outdoor Project. After turning off the main road, it was mostly paved. The last couple miles, though, were a bit rough. Mostly mud, with more than a few fair-sized crater-lakes. Generally, at least one set of wheels could ride an edge, and it didn't end up being a problem at all with the jeep. Not entirely sure a small 2wd would be as successful, but, um, probably?
The trailhead coordinates offered by Outdoor Project are bogus, though. Do not use them! Instead, we created a new track when we left the trailhead, which shows the entire route back to the main road.
http://gpsfly.org/gps_map.php?gps_id=2971&w=645&h=440
I really wish I'd thought to take a photo of the trailhead, but didn't! So (I hope he won't mind!) instead I'll include a shot bobcat took and posted in another thread.
I believe the little road marker reads "3-5E-13.4"? Wish I'd taken better note of it. Trail winds through those stumps.
(photo: bobcat)
It's a bit difficult to get to, but this is a real gem of a trail. We never saw another human all day long. To the people who laughed at the notion of hiking yesterday, I think we actually laughed last. Best possibly "crappy day" imaginable!
The Other Eagle Creek, 10-Jan-2014
The Other Eagle Creek, 10-Jan-2014
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Re: The Other Eagle Creek, 10-Jan-2014
The forest along that trail is so lush, lovely hike in any season
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Re: The Other Eagle Creek, 10-Jan-2014
The first bit of the trail isn't all that great, travelling through old cut areas. But once you get down to the creek, it just becomes kind of magical. A great winter trail, but it is rather hard to find, and mostly unmarked. I haven't been there since the new cutting has started, though.
The point at which you turned around is really the end of that trail. After crossing the creek, you would be on the eagle creek cutoff trail (504 I believe) which heads back up the other side of the canyon and eventually intersects the Old Baldy trail. That trail isn't all that long but is very steep.
The point at which you turned around is really the end of that trail. After crossing the creek, you would be on the eagle creek cutoff trail (504 I believe) which heads back up the other side of the canyon and eventually intersects the Old Baldy trail. That trail isn't all that long but is very steep.
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Re: The Other Eagle Creek, 10-Jan-2014
Thanks, Karl - great pick for a winter hike! Great photos, too..!
Couldn't agree more on the beauty along the way, too. The spur road used to be a lot uglier, but last time I hiked there (a few years ago now), the clearcuts had grown over quite a bit, and it wasn't really a big deal (though I've wondered if the renewed logging has undone that..?).
BTW, there's a large (and spectacular) falls on the stream flowing from Old Baldy on the south side of the canyon - you can see it from the Douglas Trail (in spots), and it's a fairly manageable bushwhack from the Eagle Creek trail... if you're looking for a somewhat longer trip. I've called it Chak Chak Falls and I don't think it gets many visitors. Hard to photograph, but really impressive!
Thanks for posting!
Couldn't agree more on the beauty along the way, too. The spur road used to be a lot uglier, but last time I hiked there (a few years ago now), the clearcuts had grown over quite a bit, and it wasn't really a big deal (though I've wondered if the renewed logging has undone that..?).
BTW, there's a large (and spectacular) falls on the stream flowing from Old Baldy on the south side of the canyon - you can see it from the Douglas Trail (in spots), and it's a fairly manageable bushwhack from the Eagle Creek trail... if you're looking for a somewhat longer trip. I've called it Chak Chak Falls and I don't think it gets many visitors. Hard to photograph, but really impressive!
Thanks for posting!
Re: The Other Eagle Creek, 10-Jan-2014
After those pictures, I think we may have another kind of "Portland Hikers" influx on that trail! I sure wish to visit asap...
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Re: The Other Eagle Creek, 10-Jan-2014
Karl,
You 2 picked another great day & great trip! I looked over the maps REALLY hard trying to come up with some way to make a loop with this trail, then up to Old Baldy with some sort of a OT connection back to the roads on the north side of Eagle Creek. Just couldn't find a way to avoid getting my feet wet. Maybe in the summer / fall it might be a reasonable thought. But, then there is that stiff climb out of the canyon at the very end.......
You 2 picked another great day & great trip! I looked over the maps REALLY hard trying to come up with some way to make a loop with this trail, then up to Old Baldy with some sort of a OT connection back to the roads on the north side of Eagle Creek. Just couldn't find a way to avoid getting my feet wet. Maybe in the summer / fall it might be a reasonable thought. But, then there is that stiff climb out of the canyon at the very end.......
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Re: The Other Eagle Creek, 10-Jan-2014
As usual, your pictures do great justice to the trail. Looks like the three of you had a fine time.
Yes, the BLM road is 3-5E-15.4. Thanks for portraying my CR-V. I'll get this in the Field Guide soon enough, hopefully with precise directions . . .
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Yes, the BLM road is 3-5E-15.4. Thanks for portraying my CR-V. I'll get this in the Field Guide soon enough, hopefully with precise directions . . .
The raggedy fungus is a scaly hedgehog (Sarcodon imbricatus).
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Re: The Other Eagle Creek, 10-Jan-2014
Great TR! I had wondered if this trail was worth the hassle to get to it. From your pictures, I'd say it was. I'm glad that while the rest of us were shivering miserably in the rain, longing for some spring sun, you three were experiencing this place to share with the rest of us. Thanks for doing so .
PS: I love the pic of Oscar doing the 'rock hopping.' We always let our dog pick the trail out for us in those situations. She seems to do much better than us at finding the trail with the least amount of wetness and difficulty .
PS: I love the pic of Oscar doing the 'rock hopping.' We always let our dog pick the trail out for us in those situations. She seems to do much better than us at finding the trail with the least amount of wetness and difficulty .
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Re: The Other Eagle Creek, 10-Jan-2014
Thank you, for all the very nice comments!
At least some of those O&C lands (I believe) shown on the map have been recently clearcut, too, fwiw.
I think one potentially confusing thing is, there's a road cut heading downhill approximately parallel to the trail. Folks could mistake that for the trail? Routing them through that thicket of stumps is the key to getting out the starting gate properly.
Yes, the first mile or so wasn't all that intriguing, as you drop down into the valley. Probably should've mentioned that. Nice enough, but nothing like what's to come.RobFromRedland wrote:The first bit of the trail isn't all that great, travelling through old cut areas. But once you get down to the creek, it just becomes kind of magical. A great winter trail, but it is rather hard to find, and mostly unmarked. I haven't been there since the new cutting has started, though.
I think we were still about a half-mile or so from where it turned up. We wondered if there was "a point" in doing that extra bit, other than exercise? Assuming something called Old Baldy would have some views? That is, at any rate, on a day where the top wouldn't have been in clouds.RobFromRedland wrote:The point at which you turned around is really the end of that trail. After crossing the creek, you would be on the eagle creek cutoff trail (504 I believe) which heads back up the other side of the canyon and eventually intersects the Old Baldy trail. That trail isn't all that long but is very steep.
Not sure I can answer that, having not seen it before. You do drive along the edge of a clearcut for awhile, not long before getting to the TH. Is that what you mean?Splintercat wrote:Couldn't agree more on the beauty along the way, too. The spur road used to be a lot uglier, but last time I hiked there (a few years ago now), the clearcuts had grown over quite a bit, and it wasn't really a big deal (though I've wondered if the renewed logging has undone that..?).
Not being in the Field Guide, and "a bit" difficult to find, I dunno...?Peder wrote:After those pictures, I think we may have another kind of "Portland Hikers" influx on that trail! I sure wish to visit asap...
We didn't spend much time with maps, but in just looking around were wondering what sorts of loop options might be possible, on either side of the trail. That Old Baldy loop you're looking at does appear pretty appealing! It'd be a heck of an effort, too, especially that "cliff diving" at the western end of the return route!K.Wagner wrote:You 2 picked another great day & great trip! I looked over the maps REALLY hard trying to come up with some way to make a loop with this trail, then up to Old Baldy with some sort of a OT connection back to the roads on the north side of Eagle Creek. Just couldn't find a way to avoid getting my feet wet. Maybe in the summer / fall it might be a reasonable thought. But, then there is that stiff climb out of the canyon at the very end.......
At least some of those O&C lands (I believe) shown on the map have been recently clearcut, too, fwiw.
I sure hope it's okay I used that photo! I linked directly to the one hosted here, which you put in your TR. Was really kicking myself for not taking one myself of the trailhead. Appreciate the confirmation on the road marker, too! We used that ourselves to positively ID the turnout!bobcat wrote:Yes, the BLM road is 3-5E-15.4. Thanks for portraying my CR-V. I'll get this in the Field Guide soon enough, hopefully with precise directions . . .
I think one potentially confusing thing is, there's a road cut heading downhill approximately parallel to the trail. Folks could mistake that for the trail? Routing them through that thicket of stumps is the key to getting out the starting gate properly.
In a word... Yes!sprengers4jc wrote:Great TR! I had wondered if this trail was worth the hassle to get to it.
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Re: The Other Eagle Creek, 10-Jan-2014
Unfortunately, Old Baldy no longer has any views, even on a clear day. It used to have a lookout on it, but it has really grown in over the years. There is just a small open spot on the top now. There are a few spots on the way up with views, but nothing on top.I think we were still about a half-mile or so from where it turned up. We wondered if there was "a point" in doing that extra bit, other than exercise? Assuming something called Old Baldy would have some views? That is, at any rate, on a day where the top wouldn't have been in clouds.
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