Ramona Falls Trail Work May 1 2014

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retired jerry
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Re: Ramona Falls Trail Work May 1 2014

Post by retired jerry » September 17th, 2014, 2:29 pm

I've seen new signs too. Seems like mileages aren't on them anymore.

But "minimum of signing" is subjective. It seems reasonable to have a sign or signs at trail junctions to help people to go where they need to rather than get lost.

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Re: Ramona Falls Trail Work May 1 2014

Post by kepPNW » September 17th, 2014, 2:42 pm

retired jerry wrote:It seems reasonable to have a sign or signs at trail junctions to help people to go where they need to rather than get lost.
Clearly, those are for the "convenience of the visitor" and therefore in violation of that guideline. (Without the potential of getting lost is it truly Wilderness?)
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Re: Ramona Falls Trail Work May 1 2014

Post by adamschneider » September 17th, 2014, 5:43 pm

kepPNW wrote:
retired jerry wrote:It seems reasonable to have a sign or signs at trail junctions to help people to go where they need to rather than get lost.
Clearly, those are for the "convenience of the visitor" and therefore in violation of that guideline. (Without the potential of getting lost is it truly Wilderness?)
Maybe the idea is that telling you which trail you're on will prevent you from getting lost, but knowing the mileage would be a "convenience."

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Re: Ramona Falls Trail Work May 1 2014

Post by mcds » September 18th, 2014, 9:13 am

Or maybe the junction signs are there for administrative purposes, and hiker benefit is a side effect. Regardless, the policy manual clearly states that junction signs are allowed, or, depending on how you take it, required. On kepPNW's sign, two lines identify directions to destinations, and the third identifies a trail. Moreover, everything about kepPNW's sign follows policy specifications that I've read. Heck it even meets the policies of Wilderness Watch.

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